Loam loves to listen! In this podcast, we talk to Andrea Sanders of Be Zero about living in a circular economy, inhabiting contradictions, and carving out the space for more experience—and less stuff—in our lives. Andrea's compassionate approach to activism will inspire you to make small tweaks in your own life, trusting that every step has resonances we can't always predict. As Andrea reminds us, radical change happens in a thousand and one different ways.